Artistic type consultation

[lumineaux]

lanomeand I are collaborating on a scroll project that we want to make look as much as like a period legal document as possible, down to and including having a seal.


Before I run off and do independent research on this, can anyone make any recommendations for how we would do a wax seal dangling by the appropriate attachment from a document?


French or English practices are preferable, given the recipient. 





Edited to add: Thank you! I love the wealth of knowledge available for the asking.

Comments

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

I wank to say the Ihreonimus has been wokring on those- I know people have been using fingerloop braids. Whether those are being done by people who want to fingerloop braid on anything that sits still long enough, I don't know.

[oaken-glen.livejournal.com]

Iheronimus was the first person that I thought of as well.

[evilnicola.livejournal.com]

Lisa/Eleanor does fingeroop braiding on the ones she has done, but I think that she falls under fingerloop anything that sits still long enough.

[artisticphoenix.livejournal.com]

Eleanor and I have done this after taking a class from Ihronimus. It involved finger loop braiding attached to the scroll and the seal on the braiding. I have some examples kicking around my house if you want me to scan them and send them to you. If you contact Eleanor she probably still has all the information on how to do it and period examples.

[lumineaux.livejournal.com]

Eva and Eleanor are already in touch on this . . .

[beckishadow.livejournal.com]

I wonder if Alban could provide info on some of his extant pieces..

[math5.livejournal.com]

http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/caran_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIELD_9=NOMDOS&VALUE_9=FLORILEGE

[math5.livejournal.com]

Also, I have to warn you if you haven't used sealing wax: it gets much warmer than candle wax.

[artisticphoenix.livejournal.com]

Okay, I've just done some quick research and there are some samples here, which include the finger loop braiding that I was talking about:

http://www.midrealm.org/starleafgate/Documents/Period_Legal_Documents.pdf

you can also used vellum

[lumineaux.livejournal.com]

I was hoping that article had more to say about the language and structure of period legal documents; it skipped right on over the language and went straight to how big the margins should be. Harumph.

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

Procedure procedure procedure....

[lumineaux.livejournal.com]

Font size, margin size, characters per page, weight and color of paper, appropriately colored covers . . . some days being a litigator is more like being a decorator.

[hlwoods.livejournal.com]

There's also the option of tabletweaving. There's a reference to five tablet woven seal tags that floats around -- from Thora's textile resources page there's the mention of "Henshall, Audrey. "Five Tablet-Woven Seal-Tags." Archaeological Journal 121 (1964), pp. 154-62".

[hlwoods.livejournal.com]

Are you planning, by the way, on making you own tags, or would you be interested in having some woven? (And what time scale? And what colour?)

[mariedeblois.livejournal.com]

I'm amazed at all the "fingerloop!" comments ... I've generally seen them in the SCA (and thus naively extrapolated to period practice) done with strips of parchment/vellum. Good to know.

[nazrynn.livejournal.com]

You could also contact Maxton Gunn, from up in Malagentia, who did pendant seals on a Maunche scroll for Alexander St. Pierre last Birka. (I'm sure you can find him via Alexander, or Camille des Jardins may know where to find him - I don't know if Camille's here on your friends list...).